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1. Sticky:Dev Blog: Client modification, the EULA and you - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Ganthrithor wrote: If your department doesn't have the capacity to evaluate and green-list third party tools then you need to avoid language that makes using any tool an EULA violation. The language of the third party policies post does not c...
- by CCP Stillman - at 2013.04.18 17:24:00
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2. Sticky:Dev Blog: Client modification, the EULA and you - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Zeph Bowra wrote: Please give us a CCP-sanctioned way of accessing arbitrary data about the sandbox, beef up your API functionality and capacity, maybe even make it compatible with other real-world systems, and let us continue our relationship...
- by CCP Stillman - at 2013.04.18 17:00:00
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3. Sticky:Dev Blog: Client modification, the EULA and you - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Muscaat wrote: For years, CCP have been saying "cache scraping is OK". Then out of the blue we get a dev blog and wiki page telling us exactly the opposite: cache scraping is banned and CCP can ban you for doing it. Then , in the comments th...
- by CCP Stillman - at 2013.04.18 15:16:00
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4. Sticky:Dev Blog: Client modification, the EULA and you - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Minimax Zed wrote: Two step wrote: As I have been saying to CCP Stillman since this went public (the CSM was not informed of this in advance), CCP should provide an API call to get market data before they declare cache scraping illegal. Many...
- by CCP Stillman - at 2013.04.18 15:12:00
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5. Sticky:Dev Blog: Client modification, the EULA and you - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Horatius Caul wrote: Uppsy Daisy wrote: The EULA has always been completely vague. The nearest we have had previously was that cache scraping was legal. All EULAs are vague, on purpose. Why? Because they are written to allow the first pa...
- by CCP Stillman - at 2013.04.18 14:55:00
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6. Sticky:Dev Blog: Client modification, the EULA and you - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Fade Toblack wrote: Hell, let's take this further. On one hand, in the devblog you state that you'll never approve any piece of 3rd party software, meanwhile individual CCP staff are stating that people won't get banned for using EveMon - sure...
- by CCP Stillman - at 2013.04.18 14:45:00
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7. Sticky:Dev Blog: Client modification, the EULA and you - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Mechaet wrote: The cache scraping ban was unexpected, though. How are eve-central et al going to get their market data? I've configured my EveMon to not send in the market data now (and I assume any wise player will do the same). It kind of su...
- by CCP Stillman - at 2013.04.18 14:30:00
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8. Sticky:Dev Blog: Client modification, the EULA and you - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Uppsy Daisy wrote: Benny Ohu wrote: is cache scraping what evemon does when it 'sends market data from your eve installation cache to online endpoints'? Absolutely, yes. Half the player population are now breaking the EULA. Nice job CCP...
- by CCP Stillman - at 2013.04.18 14:22:00
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9. Sticky:Dev Blog: Client modification, the EULA and you - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Hosedna wrote: CCP Stillman wrote: Hosedna wrote: The wiki page states that cache scraping is forbidden. If I'm correct, popular services such as eve-central rely on it... Do you plan to release an API access to the market to make up for ...
- by CCP Stillman - at 2013.04.18 14:15:00
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10. Sticky:Dev Blog: Client modification, the EULA and you - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Hosedna wrote: The wiki page states that cache scraping is forbidden. If I'm correct, popular services such as eve-central rely on it... Do you plan to release an API access to the market to make up for this ? Or many player developped applicat...
- by CCP Stillman - at 2013.04.18 14:09:00
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11. Sticky:Dev blog: Begun, the bot war has - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
mynnna wrote: Will you also address the concern I voiced on the previous page, namely the one where instances of innocent players being wrongfully banned was basically swept under the rug and ignored until loudly and publicly called on it? Bec...
- by CCP Stillman - at 2013.03.18 17:59:00
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12. Sticky:Dev blog: Begun, the bot war has - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Vera Algaert wrote: CCP Stillman wrote: Vera Algaert wrote: CCP Stillman wrote: But client modification right now are anything that injects/touches the running EVE process. That is, reads or writes memory into it, injects and executes...
- by CCP Stillman - at 2013.03.18 17:21:00
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13. Sticky:Dev blog: Begun, the bot war has - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Vera Algaert wrote: CCP Stillman wrote: But client modification right now are anything that injects/touches the running EVE process. That is, reads or writes memory into it, injects and executes code. Basically anything that modifies the cl...
- by CCP Stillman - at 2013.03.18 17:10:00
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14. Sticky:Dev blog: Begun, the bot war has - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote: CCP Peligro wrote: spookydonut wrote: Firstly, who the hell is CCP Peligro? Hi! That would be me. I've been at CCP since April 2006, but my work is done largely behind the scenes, so you might not have hear...
- by CCP Stillman - at 2013.03.18 15:42:00
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15. Sticky:Dev blog: Begun, the bot war has - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Gilbaron wrote: Gempei wrote: what exactly is "client modification"? thats a pretty important question, there is a bunch of tools out in the wild that can access some kind of cache. does that count as a client modification ? some kind o...
- by CCP Stillman - at 2013.03.18 15:27:00
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16. Sticky:Dev blog: Begun, the bot war has - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
spookydonut wrote: Secondly, does the 3rd strike represent rmt and client modication bans on the graph? No. The graph does not cover those bans. Those bans require more investigation than normal bots and are handled and tracked separately.
- by CCP Stillman - at 2013.03.18 15:12:00
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17. Sticky:Dev blog: Begun, the bot war has - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Vincent Athena wrote: One part of the current policy that is missing (at least I hope its still part of policy) is removal of ill gotten ISK. Is that still being done? It absolutely is, and is done automatically in all cases where the amount...
- by CCP Stillman - at 2013.03.18 15:11:00
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18. Sticky:New dev blog: Team Security - Now with 100% more Anti-RMT - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
Pirmasis Sparagas wrote: Neo Agricola wrote: CCP Sreegs wrote: Reporting a bot does not insinuate immediate action or actually action at all . It does matter though. If you are doing nothing against a bot I reported, why should I r...
- by CCP Stillman - at 2012.04.05 10:51:00
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19. Sticky:New dev blog: Team Security - Now with 100% more Anti-RMT - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
I wasn't going to butt in on this good discussion. But since it was requested, hi! In a few weeks, once we have more data and pretty graphs, we'll make a numbers blog. So look forward to that.
- by CCP Stillman - at 2012.04.04 10:09:00
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20. Sticky:New dev blog: Ship-troduction: The Caldari Naga - in EVE Information Portal [original thread]
CCP Guard wrote: Kaaahhhhnnn wrote: I love you so much CCP. We love you too. Group hug!
- by CCP Stillman - at 2011.11.04 11:24:00
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